Comments on: Company pays millions for OT screwup http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/ Your daily dose of HR Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:43:13 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: numbersguy http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/comment-page-1/#comment-53837 numbersguy Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:27:31 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=5723#comment-53837 Did any executives at Tenet get fired over this - i.e. VP of Personnel, CFO, COO, CEO? If the accounting scandals of Enron and Tycho taught us anything, it's that white collar crime is still a crime and executives should be punished for decisions they make. HR professionals have got to present their case to management then find a new job if the company chooses to disobey the law. That is the ethical thing to do. Why would you want to stay and contribute your energies to a company engaged in illegal activity? Did any executives at Tenet get fired over this – i.e. VP of Personnel, CFO, COO, CEO? If the accounting scandals of Enron and Tycho taught us anything, it’s that white collar crime is still a crime and executives should be punished for decisions they make. HR professionals have got to present their case to management then find a new job if the company chooses to disobey the law. That is the ethical thing to do. Why would you want to stay and contribute your energies to a company engaged in illegal activity?

]]> By: Donna Rhone http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/comment-page-1/#comment-30326 Donna Rhone Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:05:55 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=5723#comment-30326 In response to Tricia's comment about the HR Professionals: I am an HR/Payroll professional and just because nothing was done doesn't mean an effort wasn't made. Often Management are told they are breaking the law management refuse to follow/listen to the advise given. Hopefully the payroll professional was aware of the law; if not it was their responsibility to know and advise. If management was warned hopefully the person(s) kept documentation of that warning. Some organizations think because they have gotten away with it so long that they will continue to get away with it. I am a believer that things come full circle. I am glad they got caught! I wonder if it was worth it to Tenet? In response to Tricia’s comment about the HR Professionals: I am an HR/Payroll professional and just because nothing was done doesn’t mean an effort wasn’t made. Often Management are told they are breaking the law management refuse to follow/listen to the advise given. Hopefully the payroll professional was aware of the law; if not it was their responsibility to know and advise. If management was warned hopefully the person(s) kept documentation of that warning.

Some organizations think because they have gotten away with it so long that they will continue to get away with it. I am a believer that things come full circle. I am glad they got caught! I wonder if it was worth it to Tenet?

]]> By: Joyce http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29941 Joyce Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:53:36 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=5723#comment-29941 I would be surprised if the tactics used by the company owning these hospitals didn't cause substandard patient care. How can a health care professional feel good about their job if they know another in the same line of work makes as much money as they do, and never works any OT? DUH. I would be surprised if the tactics used by the company owning these hospitals didn’t cause substandard patient care. How can a health care professional feel good about their job if they know another in the same line of work makes as much money as they do, and never works any OT? DUH.

]]> By: PS http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29927 PS Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:07:18 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=5723#comment-29927 Wow. I can't believe how the company could have thought they were behaving ethically in this circumstance, and that they would get away with this behavior. Wow. I can’t believe how the company could have thought they were behaving ethically in this circumstance, and that they would get away with this behavior.

]]> By: Tricia http://www.hrmorning.com/company-pays-85-million-for-ot-pay-screw-up/comment-page-1/#comment-29916 Tricia Thu, 22 Oct 2009 17:38:17 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=5723#comment-29916 You would think a company that size would do everything in it's power to comply with regulations. Sooner or later that kind of employee abuse was going to get them into trouble and I am glad they got nailed. I am surprised they got away with it for as long as they did. You know a company that size probably had at least 4 or 5 HR professionals working for them, and for each of them not to fight tooth and nail to have the policies changed is beyond me. They all got what they deserved. You would think a company that size would do everything in it’s power to comply with regulations. Sooner or later that kind of employee abuse was going to get them into trouble and I am glad they got nailed. I am surprised they got away with it for as long as they did. You know a company that size probably had at least 4 or 5 HR professionals working for them, and for each of them not to fight tooth and nail to have the policies changed is beyond me. They all got what they deserved.

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