Comments on: E-Verify: Does it have a ‘gaping hole’?

By: Mary

Mary — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:39:14 +0000

DJC – you’re correct. I read that incorrectly as “armed inspectors with search warrants”. Sorry. Thas’t why I figured the need for calming drugs – my mistake.

By: djc

djc — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:47:11 +0000

Mary -

While I may or may not agree with Britannicus, I would suggest you are more careful in your response.
You misquote. Nowhere within Britannicus’ response are the words “armed inspection” (inferring weapons). Rather, it was stated that the inspectors will probably have to be “armed with a search warrant”, which in and of itself is a protection against a “police state”.

Once again, as often happens on this website, responses have shifted from the issue to personal attacks “get a grip and take a valium”?

What happened to professional differences? Agreeing to disagree, without the need for personal attacks.

By: dozer

dozer — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:44:34 +0000

^^E-verify has stopped about 80% of our applicants. Nothing will be foolproof, however, this is a great improvement because we would have hired those people with the “old” I-9 system.

By: RB

RB — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:23:03 +0000

Personally, I thought the “No-Match” process was pretty good because not only did it address identity fraud, it helped a number of good, honest people correct their information with the SSA. Both were good outcomes.

As for E-Verify, its absolutely true that it is useless when it comes to identity fraud. I know people who work as investigators for ICE and they tell me that the system gives a false sense of security to companies who think they are not hiring illegal aliens, when, in fact, some of them are. E-verify isn’t foolproof as long as identity fraud is rampant.

By: Private Party

Private Party — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:05:49 +0000

Well put Brittancus!!! We all need to call our senators and representatives and tell them we want e-verify if for anything just to put REAL Americans to work not illegals who steal American jobs, use false id’s and use up every free system in American that should be reserved for Americans only. If we didn’t have such a large number of illegals on assistance and WIC and Medicaid and free this and free that, we wouldn’t have a problem with bankrupt states and states that can no longer afford to pay true American benefits for unemployment to Americans ONLY because it’s being used up by all the illegal aliens. Go home and build your own country up!!! All of them, whether they pick our fruit, build our buildings, clean out houses or cut our lawn, they all need to go home.

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:43:22 +0000

Using E-Verify in no way increases the potential for identity fraud, and actually reduces fake document acceptance. No system will be totally fool-proof, but this system will detect fraudulent documents in at least two ways: 1) Fake documents that do not represent a ‘real’ person; 2) Fake immigration documents representing another lawful immigrant.

Both of these are improvements from the prior method of close enough and don’t ask to many questions or else I-9 process.

I have personally processed several hundred new hires through E-Verify, with much ease. Even when a referral is required, the process is well worth having a printable USCIS document as an ally for any action taken.

It’s like trading a old Yugo for a new Camry…

By: Mary

Mary — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:01:07 +0000

Brittancus needs to get a grip and take a valium (or two or three) with their “armed inspections” of local businesses. Go move to a police state!

By: Gina

Gina — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:51:10 +0000

It’s not perfect

But neither are any of the other methods.

We’re not going to be able to detect identify theft with this system.

But it works 1000x better than completing an I9 form by itself.

By: dozer

dozer — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:58:05 +0000

If the person is a green card type of person, there is a picture in the website to verify. If it is regarding identity, then the SSN won’t match the name.

If there are still issues, one can appeal to the SSN administration office.

By: dozer

dozer — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:56:56 +0000

The argument from the congress people is false.