Let your employees know about this tax-cut timebomb
April 3, 2009 by Kerry IsbergPosted in: Money, Pay and benefits, Special Report
Some employees may be shocked April of next year when they’re stuck with a big tax bill – because of the stimulus package that, ironically, was designed to add money to their paychecks. But an alert from you and your Payroll dept. can help workers avoid the problem.
Here’s why: President Obama’s “Making Work Pay” tax credit, a part of the recent stimulus package, is the lesser of:
1. 6.2% of an employee’s earned income, or
2. $400 ($800 for married taxpayers filing jointly).
While the credit won’t significantly alter most employees’ 2009 tax status, married employees filing joint tax returns and those working multiple jobs may not be so lucky.
Here’s why: The credit phases out for a married couple filing a joint return whose modified adjusted gross income (AGI) is between $150,000 and $190,000, and for other workers whose modified AGI is between $75,000 and $95,000. That means that by the end of the year, these employees could be significantly underwithheld compared with what they owe Uncle Sam.
Of course, Payroll’s not responsible for tracking employees’ personal tax circumstances – but it can’t hurt to make available to everyone:
- An explanation (e.g., e-mail, paycheck stuffer, etc.) of how they could end up underwithheld for 2009 and 2010.
- Copies of IRS Publication 919, How Do I Adjust My Withholding? A worksheet on page 22 will help employees calculate the credit amount.
- New Forms W-4. That way, if receiving this credit puts workers into a higher tax bracket, they can adjust their withholding.
Tags: Making Work Pay, obama, Payroll
April 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Hey Rich,
I saw this and thought this article on the tax cut timebomb pretty important to share with you and noteworthy of sharing with employees.
-Paula
April 6th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
I would advise against notifying your employees about this issue by using this exact wording– it is far far too political for use by Human Resources or Management.
April 6th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Change we can believe in.
April 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
You haven’t seen anything yet.
He did promise to raise our taxes and somebody out there voted for him(looks like maybe 4-5 times in some areas) ….so you got what you wanted.
Make sure your employees get this info.
Then again, Barney Frank is promising to step in and establish what we all get paid anyway.
What more could we ask for – is this easy or what!
April 6th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Definitely news to share with staff to avoid them bombarding my office when they are filing their returns. But I am willing to pay the price later if it will help me and the economy out of the rut we are in now. Someone had to do something and no one else offered the resolution (besides whining).
April 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
I am a bookkeeper with multiple clients. I have put a payroll memo in everyone’s paychecks about how to calculate their withholding by looking at their 2008 income taxes due – with a W-4 copied on the back of it. Almost everyone has been thrilled to have some info on this – no one understands how this will work. I did not find this article to be “too political” at all. It simply states the facts.
April 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
I read on the IRs website that any employee old enough for social security will not be eligible for the new tax rate. They will receive a non taxable $250.00 each sometime in June. I draw SS and work so I’m going to have to change my withholding amount back to what it was. The 15-t publication we got in the mail does not address this problem, there are a lot of seniors still working out there.
April 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
In the state of AZ, the state is increasing their “behind the scenes” tax calculations to “take” this money through increased state taxes. Therefore, AZ residents will not benefit from this federal move at all.
My question: does this mean we will feel the pinch twice? One from state right now, and 2nd pinch come tax time yext year?
Sue
April 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Did people forget WHO caused this problem…George Bush and the Republicians and now our new president has to find a way to solve in a short time which took 8 years to create. (I vote person not party….I am not a party member)
Of course, this payroll info should be shared but for once can people start blaming the “correct” people!
April 7th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Mary Lou,
I am not saying Bush did everything or for that much anything right… but… I believe a lot of people have forgotten how this financial downslide really got to tumbling.. does no one remember the main reason Osama Bin Ladin crashed into the Trade Center… it was to crumble the economy… mission accomplished!! Guess I am blaming the correct people
April 7th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Mary Lou and Alice,
Who really caused this mess? Bill Clinton. In 1995, he expanded a little known act called CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) which made homeownership a social goal of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac (a noble cause but taxpeyers should not subsidize homeownership). Up until then, these 2 entities had been conservative in which loans they would buy. But now they had to buy riskier loans. I know. I was a banker then and it fundamentally changed the way we lent money. So you then had renters buying homes they could not afford. It was a ticking time bomb that finally went off. And Mary Lou, Bush actually wanted to reign in Fannie and Freedie in 2005 and prevent this mess, but the Dems would not let him. So know your facts before you “blame Bush”. Watch this short 2 minute video to get your facts straight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1
April 7th, 2009 at 7:48 am
I did a payroll stuffer for our employees that went in the first paycheck that the stimulus affected them. It doesn’t have to be a political issue, simply state the facts, making it a financial issue. The insert explained the changes to their checks, who qualifies and who doesn’t and states that they MAY have to adjust their W-4 form withholdings based on their personal financial situation and to speak with their tax preparer for guidance. By law we may not tell them how to set up their W-4 form, but we did try to make them aware of the issue. Hopefully they will do what they need to do and will not have to return the money next year when they file their taxes, but they were notified.
April 7th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I believe a lot of people are one track minded and very little will make provisions for taxes. Only to see a few more dollars in their paychecks but not thinking “what will happen down the road”. I’ve made provisions and changed my 401K contribution and my withholding amounts so that I don’t get hit hard.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Mary Lou – Exactly how did the last President make this happen? Is he responsible for the entire World Economy? Who was controlling Congress and the banking departments? It’s easier to make broad statements but the economy worlwide is the problem. The issue is how to assist the economy back to health. When people say “At least he’s trying something”, is just plain foolish. There are definite no-no’s you do not implement in an ailing economy. Smooth talking and bad policies to further a social agenda does not equal a better and healthier economy. Sometimes just doing something may be more a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Do not look at thing politically, look at the policy and the true reason the policy is being put in place. At some time we need a true leader, not someone that continues to blame the past administration constantly. That smoke and mirror game gets old. It’s funny how that works, put out bad policy, spend more money than any human in history, pass bills that will do absolutely do nothing for the economy, tax the producers for more social handouts and blame the prior administration (except the democratic congress). Why hasn’t our leader called Pelosi, Frank and Dodd on the carpet? I would have true respect if the current President was honest and called them out along with President Busch. It’s amazing how the economy is hurting and people are just fine with spending/borrowing to the point we cannot pay it back and thinking more government and taxation is just hunkey dorey. Bad policy is bad policy no matter who is writing it or who voted for it. Quit living in the past and take a look at the polices for what they really are and not the personality behind it. Just a footnote: It’s not a good idea for the US government to be nationalizing banks and companies. When the government tells you they are not nationalizing businesses or banks but owns the majority of interest in the companies and dictates the operations, you can do the math.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:11 am
Mary Lou Brewton-Belveal –
Yeah – one person effects the world economy. What a narrow view you carry.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:55 am
We directed our employees to the IRS website:
http://www.irs.gov/individuals/page/0,,id=14806,00.html
The IRS will help your employees calculate their 2009 W-4. They will need their 2008 return and their last check stub.
April 7th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Do you have an example of a payroll stuffer you used to expain all this to your employees that you would be willing to share? It seems that communicating the facts is a good idea – people can then make up their own minds re what they want or need to do.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:00 am
Kristie –
Thank You!! I am going to write an article in our newsletter about the issue and direct them to this link you have provided.
You saved me some time and effort – AWESOME!
Thanks again.
April 7th, 2009 at 9:01 am
The blame Bush for everything crowd at it again. When something bad happens isn’t it human nature to excoriate someone else to cover up your own sins…..right out of the socialist handbook.
This issue is all about politics – so anyone trying to extricate the issue from the obvious is simply wasting our time. Most of the recent topics here are politically charged to the joy of the editor who has seen a remarkable increase in replies no doubt over last year….
So let the socialist (not liberals) throw in a few more diversionary tactics to get off topic which is how to tell your employees the new reality about taxes (income redistribution) coming their way.
Not like it is still a secret or anything. Put a powerpoint together and sit the employees down to a presentation showing the before and after the big rip in their pockets happens. Have your EAP counselors on hand.
George Bush never caved on the USA for being a strong country….much unlike this rabid apologist who magnifies all that is bad about America to garner support his pan-european uninspired vision for the world order. His fantasy foreign policy ideas…all politics of fear – he campaigned on eliminating it but it is all he does….
“just words” is all he’s got.
It is apparently working on this forum as some of you express your “fear” of telling your employees the truth…….the likes of Barney Frank dictating policy must really intimidate……1930’s remix
April 7th, 2009 at 9:06 am
David,
If you provide your e-mail address, I will send you a copy of the document I did for our payroll stuffer.
Kelly
April 7th, 2009 at 10:10 am
I think that Mary Lou Brewton-Belveal needs to re-visit her facts. This mess was started by the democrats beginning back with pres Carter and continued with Pres Clinton. Remember, we wanted all people to have the american dream of owning a home, even if it meant writing bad loans. This Housing or Mortgage issue was not started by the GOP, although they did not stop it either.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Kelly Kline:
If you would be willing to share your payroll stuffer on this subject with me too I would greatly appreciate it. My email address is teresa.orr@chemspecpaint.com
Thanks.
April 7th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Kelly -
Can you send me a copy of your stuff, also?
April 7th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Thank you, Lennie Lee. I read what Mary Lou had written and realized I would have to respond to ‘educate’ her. But then I read what you wrote and realized you had done my work for me, so thank you.
I do have one thing to add. It is Pelosi, Reid, Dodd and Barney ‘Fife’ who are telling the President what to do and how to do it. Remember he was one of them and they were tight. Do not be fooled by his smooth talking. He is told what to do and say. I’m sorry but it is what it is. Why else would he be teleprompting us to death. His P,R,D & F talking points are on them.
Remember what is right will seem wrong and what is wrong will seem right. There is too much bad stuff going down for this to end well. The One World Alliance. It is coming to America.
I’m curious. Did Obama visit a single cathedral while he was in Europe that has the most beautiful cathedrals in the world? If he did, it didn’t make the news. But the tour of the mosque in Turkey did make the news. Interesting.
I am so thankful we have EAP counselors to assist our employees through the maze of the coming socialism. Believe me, I’m not afraid of telling our employees the truth. It is the truth that will set them free.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Kelly -
My email is kcorino@pdssoftware.com, if you would like to share your payroll stuffer.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Kelly, can you send me a copy of your payroll stuffer also…calphin@centraltolife.com? Thanks so much!
April 7th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Kelly, I know you have lots of requests here, but would you mind sharing your payroll stuffer with me as well? My email is cindychristobrown@yahoo.com. Thank you!
April 7th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Kelly, would you please send me a copy of your payroll stuffer? Thanks for the info.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Kelly – would you mind sending the payroll stuffer to me as well – thanks.
kathy.klaiber@oce.com
April 7th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Vicki:
I’d be happy to, just let me know you e-mail address.
Kelly
April 7th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Kelly,
If you don’t mind, my email is alice_walters@Indalex.com I would appreciate it also.
April 7th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Thanks, Kelly – I didn’t mean to bombard you! My address is dcummings@nw3c.org.
Dave
April 7th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Kelly–One more request for your payroll stuffer. please. ddiekmann@appliedeng.com. Thanks much.
Dianne
April 7th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Sorry Kelly -
Thought when I listed it above, you would be able to see it. It’s Vickilogan@honnen.com. Thanks, again.
Vicki
April 7th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Kelly,
Please share with me as well, email is lisakirk-gibson@mhd.com.
Greatly appreciated,
Lisa
April 7th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Kelly — I would also love a copy of your payroll stuffer. Cheri@adwmeta.com
April 7th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
My goodness, HR2 and Lennie, you certainly are angry people! Perhaps that comes from the fear? (You must be so much fun to work with…) Try staying ‘on topic’ instead of beating your own political drum over and over… We see your comments often and we KNOW your political position. Do you really need to use this website as your personal soapbox? And Lennie, it’s Bush, not Busch. (That’s the beer)
April 7th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Kelly–Here’s another request for your payroll stuffer. Please send to ddiekmann@appliedeng.com.
Thanks
April 7th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Would you please share your payroll stuffer with me as well. Thank you. My email is erinlandis@landismarket.com
April 7th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Kelly,
I would appreciate an e-mail of your letter as well. My address is mpirro@hiteco.com
Thanks so much!!
Michele
April 7th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I would love to have a copy of Kelly’s payroll stuffer too. – jnally@portrait.com.
thanks.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
It’s impossible to make everyone happy.
It’s easy to lay the blame on past or present presidents, but remember that the president can be overridden by members of congress.
Isn’t it human nature to blame someone else?
April 7th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Hi Kelly,
I would appreciate getting a copy of your payroll stuffer as well:
l-seldon@healthfuture.org
Thanks so much.
Lisa.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Kelly: If you’d like to email me a copy of the stuffer, I’ll post it on this Web site so that you don’t have to e-mail it to everyone. My e-mail: giuliano@pbp.com
Jim Giuliano
Managing Editor
HR Morning
April 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Hi Kelly.
If you don’t mind sending me a copy of your payroll stuffer my email is lmassey@chromalloy.com. Thank you se much!
Liz
April 7th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Better than being asleep at the wheel like so many now are than to let history repeat…..you only assume that I have a “political” position?
Note that Obama’s world order agenda requires we all be asleep to succeed where as Reagan’s was for everyone to actually be awake and fully engaged. It is easier to be a simpleton isn’t it.
The nature of the topic is totally political….
So what was your inspiring contribution to this discussion – except to rag on someone else?
You confirmed what was said about laying the blame around on those who have facts….(Sol Olinsky 1939() – Identify, Isolate and Destroy those who stand in your way of socialism).
Are you a Media Matters or DailyKos Kool Aid Disciple?
You can look up what I say and confirm it…can’t say anyone could do that with the type of simple accusatory and factless contributions you made. So what is the political agenda you blame us for espousing……would it be freedom or capitalism maybe.
April 7th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I would like your payroll stuffer sent to me too…. (mhunt@dlevans.com)
Also the government had a notice to employees in the 15T IRS Publication on page 73 but I’m not sure that it is suffient or if more is needed….
Thank you!
April 7th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Kelly;
Me too!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Me too! linda.bodnarik@libertysavingsbank.com
April 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Kelly’s payroll stuffer is on the HR Morning home page, and will be there all this week for subscribers to copy.
Jim Giuliano
Managing Editor
HR Morning
April 7th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
I would also like a copy of your stuffer. My email is Martha.Rose@capitaldigestivecare.com
Thank you.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
It’s like you were waiting to pounce on someone who may oppose your accusatory, (obviously superior), intellectual Reagonistic views. Ho-hum, HR2 – you really need to calm down before you have a heart-attack, (or hurt someone). Since reading this article I’ve sent out my notifications which were much appreciated and more productive than reading your long-winded, boring dissertations. I do, however, love the DailyKos Kool Aid Disciple remark! Very clever – although self-serving and condescending.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Thank you Kelly!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Sickofpolitalpartywars –
It is interesting that you claim being more productive than reading HR2’s posts – yet! you have quite the verbage to describe his posts. So – are you attacking one’s view with numerous adjectives without actually reading what they had to say – or – did you both read his posts and become the darling of your company with the much appreciated and productive actiion of sending out a single mass e-mail.
April 7th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
Glad I could make your day and you mine…..thanks for sharing …we are all laughing here out here in the job trailer…..us Reaganites….you forgot to mention how we might all listen to Hannity or O’Reilly or Limbaugh…..but with that superior intellect we just think for ourselves…..have a happy!
April 7th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Glad I could make your day and you mine…..thanks for sharing …we are all laughing here out here in the job trailer…..us Reaganites….you forgot to mention how we might all listen to Hannity or O’Reilly or Limbaugh…..but with that superior intellect we just think for ourselves…..have a happy! We sure are….
April 7th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
For those of you that desire the stuffer – please leave the gracious lady alone.
The stuffer is on the HR Morning website – the editor of this website has put it on there for all.
April 7th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Please e-mail me a copy of the stuffer
April 7th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Wow. I go to this site for relevant information about HR. I can’t believe how it has turned into a political forum. Politics has its place, but I am not sure this is the right place. Maybe I am wrong, but I want to read about the tax credit and how to inform my employees, not whose fault it is that we now have/need the tax credit. No one will ever agree. Besides there is enough fault to go around to ALL parties. But then, that really should be different forum.
April 7th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Cindy –
We agree again – this is getting scarry
April 7th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I would like a copy of the stuffer as well. My email is loril@nwcascade.com
Thank you!
April 7th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Kelly,
Could I get a copy also…roericks@larl.org
Thanks much!
April 7th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Kelly: I would appreciate a copy of your payroll stuffer also. Thank you in advance.
bergd@ddiwire.com
April 7th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
HR2 – just a correction. His name is Saul Alinsky, author of “Rules for Radicals”. I don’t want to get political but it is important that we do a little research. If anyone knows who Frank Marshall Davis is (without looking it up) then they have truly done their homework.
April 8th, 2009 at 5:25 am
Hi Kelly: Can you also send me a copy of your payroll stuffer. Thanks so much for your help.
mcourtne@lakewest.com
Maria
April 8th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Guess I’ll jump on this band wagon too — Kelly, I’d love a copy of your payroll stuffer as well.
Here’s my email michelep@wrapups.com
April 8th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Kelly’s payroll stuffer is on the HR Morning home page
April 8th, 2009 at 8:06 am
This is some good information, however I’m wonderning how many employees this will actually affect?
Not knowing a family’s total financial picture, but looking at what the average U.S. household earnings, average household earnings for our state (Georgia) and what our employee’s earnings are, I have to guess that most of our employees will not reach those threshholds for income. Yes, this may affect quite a few people, but at least from my perspective, it isn’t going to be a massive amount of employees who are affected. It might be a little different situation in higher-cost areas like California and the Northeast.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Keith, I agree it will probably not effect that many people, but, what about your employee that has a teenager that is working. It will effect that person. I am sure it will not effect many of my direct employees, but I know quite a few, me included that has a teenager that I claim when I file, and will need to talk to them about what they are having withheld.
Kelly, Thank you for sharing!!
April 8th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Hi Alice,
Thanks for the additional info. I don’t have a teenager (yet, just a pre-schooler and toddler), but would be interested in a little more info on how this affects teenagers who are working. I’m guessing it is because their withholding is going down, but there’s no additional overall tax break for them, so when Apr 15 rolls around, they may not have withheld enough. That would be a good “heads-up” for others who have their withholding rates reduced, but don’t qualify for any overall reduction in taxes.
April 8th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Kudos, Cindy! Let’s keep this on HR related topics, people.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Kelly,
Please send a copy of your payroll stuffer to stephanie@tasklighting.com
Thanks!
April 8th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Hope everyone who wanted the payroll stuffer was able to receive it. I apologize if I missed anyone, but Jim Giuliano, Managing Editor of HR Morning, has put it on the home page of their website and said he would leave it there for a week. Glad I was able to help others with this information. I know that Kathie Smith asked for a copy, but I didn’t have her e-mail address. Hopefully she will be able to get it from the website or will let me know her e-mail.
April 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Kelly Kline:
I would really appreciate it if you would also email a copy of your payroll stuffer to me. My email address is maryann@tacservice.com
Thanks.
April 9th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Kelly:
I am another who would like to view a copy of your payroll stuffer. My email address is paydtc@yahoo.com.
Appreciate it!
April 9th, 2009 at 8:36 am
People – the flyer is available on the homepage of the HR Morning website.
April 9th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I would like a copy of Kelly’s payroll stuffer. Thanks
April 9th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Kelly,
Could I also get a copy. My email address is dcantrell@pcnsohio.com.
Thanks!
April 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Go to the HR Morning home page it has been placed there for all
Thank You Kelly for your generosity.
April 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Anita, you didn’t provide an e-mail address, but they have placed this on the home page of HRMorning.com for the week so you can get a copy there. It is on the right hand side of the page.
Ed, you are welcome!
April 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Hi Kelly – Could you please send me the sample payroll stuffer you did as well? My email address is lleonhardt@insweb.com.
Thank you!
April 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
This article has truly generated some unusual comments…
It has been truly entertaining to see how many times Ed and Kelly have had to say that the ’stuffer is on the website’ – not to mention the battle over politics. It’s the comment rally that never ends!
April 10th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Kelly – Could you please send me the sample payroll stuffer too? My email address is drexroat57@hotmail.com
April 10th, 2009 at 11:07 am
OMG!
April 10th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Lori C you are so right, I have been watching this post for the comedic relief!
April 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
What are U saying – that I’m hear to amuse you like some kinda clown? Am I some kinda clown here to @!#$% amuse you?
Just in case some poor old soul doesn’t get this – this is a quote from the movie Good Fellas.
Nothing intended at all but to quote a movie in an apropros manner.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
B, I’ve been using this as stress relief for 3 days now and it has worked better than anything – ever. It reads almost like a soap opera.
Ed, you’ve been great.
Kelly, you’re the star.
Kristie, I used your IRS website.
Thank you all for making my week.
April 10th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Kelly – I hope it’s not too late to request a copy of your stuffer. My email is padams@mid1st.com. THANKS!
April 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Not even going to say it
April 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Wow….it just keeps coming.
April 13th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Kelly Kline, I was out of the office last week and am just getting around to my emails. Would you be able to send me a copy of your stuffer, since I missed it on the homepage? Sorry for your inconvenience. kreeg@dtnspeed.net. Thanks.
April 14th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
Can someone forward me a copy of the stuffer? Please send to aadami@becket-lee.com.
Thanks!
April 14th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Can someone please forward me a copy of the stuff also? Thank you. Kim.murray@unipunch.com
April 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Marshall Davis – forgot about him….yes good point! Mispelled Saul Alinsky in haste.
These folks are not wasting anytime with their agenda of destroying the country….here we worry about tax forms when by next tax day none of us will be employed anyway, much less be able to pay taxes.
We will now be absorbing up to 30 million new “citizens” of the world without any viable means to support them…. if Obama gets his way – maybe a post on how we expect to do that through sales taxes from the local 7/11?
The AFL-CIO and Change for Something unions are joining forces to advance total amnesty for aliens..which should displace the millions of Americans already out of work… oh wait they will pay taxes…..sure -after they get their refunds, welfare, free housing, free medical, schooling(college) and SS. What about displaced union members? Tough – thanks for voting for Obama.
White House released a statement today saying (returning) vets are source of concern as recruits for right wing militia members….gee no surprise there – insult them too while you are at it….then appoint a communist to the defense department as well….makes sense. Rosa Brooks – O-M-G! A George Soros “Great World Order” minion…..What, was Michael Moore not available?
Health and Human Services appointee Donna S. who didn’t pay her taxes either got caught hiding about 2/3rds of the money raised for her by Late Term Abortionist for hire Dr Gene Tiller (why?)….and “these” people will be dictating policy to HR folks….asking them to be honest citizens……while they themselves are cheats and charlatans….
Have a happy tax revolt day.
April 15th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Tax Day not a good one for you, HR2? You just HAD to beat that drum some more…
I think somebody needs a hug…
April 15th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Please send copy of payroll stuffer to pp_cjs@elkregional.org
April 15th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Yes, everyone knows that not working for something (say, citizenship for instance) makes you appreciate and respect it all the more….right?
April 15th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Ah yes, the ever tolerant and diverse nature of the far left letting others express their views freely – as long as they are the same as theirs.
Maybe it is your children we will be seeing acting so dutifully in lockstep to protect free speach on the UNC Campus video from last night. On ABC no less – not Fox.
Someone has to be contrarian, there are so many clueless drones graduating from schools this Spring.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Being a naturalized citizen originally from Canada there were plenty of hoops to jump through forty years ago – one of them being that we were not taking jobs away from Americans. What happened? What part of “illegal” doesn’t the gov’t understand? Get them out! One at a time if that’s what it takes. I earned my priviledge to be here and so should they! I refuse to vote for any more social programs until they do something about illegals.
April 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6761633
It is all out of control and getting worse…Obama can’t and won’t lead and his agenda is pitching everyone against each other making matters that much worse. What kind of tactic is that? We already know…..
April 16th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Kelly K. could you please send me a copy of the payroll stuffer also, I am sorry this request is late. Thank you for your time. (psmith@gnbvt.edu)
April 17th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Kelly -
I would like a copy of your stuffer. It appears you have come to the aid of a bunch of folks! Thanks! My email is staylor@hideawaytexas.net.
April 23rd, 2009 at 4:54 pm
It is fascinating to see how many rich people are crybabies.
April 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I totally agree with you, PoorGuy!!! Wah!
April 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
It isn’t all rich people who are crying. Rich people can afford taxes easier than the middle class. It is a shame that people do not know their history. Wait until hyper-inflation hits. Perhaps you will get a real lesson in economy.
April 28th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Would really appreciate a copy of Kelly’s payroll stuffer concerning underwithholding taxes! Send to janice@lovell.com