Comments on: Lost in translation http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/ Your daily dose of HR Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:43:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: El Jello http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21612 El Jello Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:06:56 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21612 Again Lucinda, i am trying to educate you and every other American about the history of my people, it is through education that we find understanding. As for the Views of Jose Angel Gutierrez, he's veiws are much different them mine. His views are not universal to all Hispanos/Chicanos/Latinos. It is the violence that has prevented all ethnic groups from coming the table to find peace among eachother. And yes every American has a heritage, but few claim it as stronge as Chicanos/Hispanos/Latinos, and many of the Native American Nations/Pueblos. We refuse to sucome to the theory of Assimulation by the third generation. This land has always been a land of different cultures and languages what gives any one group the right to decide what customs or language are primary or secondary? Rudolfo "Corky" Gonzales said it best, "No man has the right to oppress people, and an oppressed people have a right to revolution" Again Lucinda, i am trying to educate you and every other American about the history of my people, it is through education that we find understanding. As for the Views of Jose Angel Gutierrez, he’s veiws are much different them mine. His views are not universal to all Hispanos/Chicanos/Latinos. It is the violence that has prevented all ethnic groups from coming the table to find peace among eachother. And yes every American has a heritage, but few claim it as stronge as Chicanos/Hispanos/Latinos, and many of the Native American Nations/Pueblos. We refuse to sucome to the theory of Assimulation by the third generation. This land has always been a land of different cultures and languages what gives any one group the right to decide what customs or language are primary or secondary? Rudolfo “Corky” Gonzales said it best, “No man has the right to oppress people, and an oppressed people have a right to revolution”

]]> By: Lucinda http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21300 Lucinda Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:53:46 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21300 to all white dying americans - this is what we so kindly let in to our country. I am not afraid my friend for my heart is not filled with hate. God will JUDGE us all including you mestizo, be not deceived. and if you have blood on your hands it WILL cry out to God - it's a shame I will not be subscribing to this site any more., so you can answer your hate filled rhetoric to whom ever. And to you El Jello thank for your enlightenment with your personal heritage, every American has a heritage but we don't try to railroad or kill any one over it. so goes to show that all your education does not bring wisdom. to all white dying americans – this is what we so kindly let in to our country. I am not afraid my friend for my heart is not filled with hate. God will JUDGE us all including you mestizo, be not deceived. and if you have blood on your hands it WILL cry out to God – it’s a shame I will not be subscribing to this site any more., so you can answer your hate filled rhetoric to whom ever.
And to you El Jello thank for your enlightenment with your personal heritage, every American has a heritage but we don’t try to railroad or kill any one over it. so goes to show that all your education does not bring wisdom.

]]> By: Not Deceived http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21281 Not Deceived Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:46:21 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21281 The founder of La Raza, Jose Angel Gutiterrez said the following: "We have an aging white America…. They are dying…. They are ******** In their pants with fear! I love it” “We’re a new Mestizo nation.” “We have got to eliminate the gringo. And what I mean by that is if worst comes to worse, we have got to kill him." What was that about these fine immigrants contributing to our society......hardly. The founder of La Raza, Jose Angel Gutiterrez said the following:

“We have an aging white America….
They are dying…. They are ********
In their pants with fear! I love it”
“We’re a new Mestizo nation.”
“We have got to eliminate the gringo.
And what I mean by that is if worst comes to worse, we have got to kill him.”

What was that about these fine immigrants contributing to our society……hardly.

]]> By: El Jello http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21221 El Jello Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:39:34 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21221 Lucinda, let me educate you on the history of the Southwest. No Hispano has come into this country that claims 8 or more generations. Our lands were militarly occupied the the US army in 1846. So, as for my 8 generations we didnt cross the border, the border crossed my family. So educate yourself on the history of the Southwest. Because many of us were here before the US was even considered a country. And also Spanish was the first European Languange in what is now the United States. Spain colonized Florida and the Southeast in the mid 1500's and colonized New Mexico and the Southwest in 1598, 22 years before the Pilgrims even arrived on the East Coast!!!! We claim the first capital of present day United States, so in all reality Spanish should be respected!! Stop with the historical ingnorance!!! Lucinda, let me educate you on the history of the Southwest. No Hispano has come into this country that claims 8 or more generations. Our lands were militarly occupied the the US army in 1846. So, as for my 8 generations we didnt cross the border, the border crossed my family. So educate yourself on the history of the Southwest. Because many of us were here before the US was even considered a country. And also Spanish was the first European Languange in what is now the United States. Spain colonized Florida and the Southeast in the mid 1500’s and colonized New Mexico and the Southwest in 1598, 22 years before the Pilgrims even arrived on the East Coast!!!! We claim the first capital of present day United States, so in all reality Spanish should be respected!! Stop with the historical ingnorance!!!

]]> By: Lucinda http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21198 Lucinda Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:15:09 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21198 to Fres and El Jello - my heart really goes out to you - but you know they came here to make a living and I am sure we all here because of that - I am very greatfully to be an American and speak English and I have learned another language so I can do business with other countries and in the process of learning a third languague and guess what no one is holding my hand to do it. NO ONE in in the country being held captive - get off your sorry assurances and be thankful go and complain to goverment that these people belong from and ask them why can their country provide for them. And guess what you are FREE to come and go as you please. I have to say I have never read such ungreatfullness in my life, Fres should round up these individuals and take them home and care for them if you feel the way you do and the other 8 generations and is so angry - obviously you are in this country for a reason - if no one likes it leave. to Fres and El Jello – my heart really goes out to you – but you know they came here to make a living and I am sure we all here because of that – I am very greatfully to be an American and speak English and I have learned another language so I can do business with other countries and in the process of learning a third languague and guess what no one is holding my hand to do it. NO ONE in in the country being held captive – get off your sorry assurances and be thankful go and complain to goverment that these people belong from and ask them why can their country provide for them.
And guess what you are FREE to come and go as you please. I have to say I have never read such
ungreatfullness in my life, Fres should round up these individuals and take them home and care for them if you feel the way you do and the other 8 generations and is so angry – obviously you are in this country for a reason – if no one likes it leave.

]]> By: Jim http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21070 Jim Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:45:54 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21070 These states have. It is under consideration in all other states. Alabama (1990) Alaska (1998) Arizona (2006) Arkansas (1987) California (1986) Colorado (1988) Florida (1988) Georgia (1986 & 1996) Hawaii (1978) Idaho (2007) Illinois (1969) Indiana (1984) Iowa (2002) Kansas (2007) Kentucky (1984) Louisiana (1812) Massachusetts (1975) Mississippi (1987) Missouri (1998) Montana (1995) Nebraska (1920) New Hampshire (1995) North Carolina (1987) North Dakota (1987) South Carolina (1987) South Dakota (1995) Tennessee (1984) Utah (2000) Virginia (1981 & 1996) Wyoming (1996) These states have. It is under consideration in all other states.

Alabama (1990)
Alaska (1998)
Arizona (2006)
Arkansas (1987)
California (1986)
Colorado (1988)
Florida (1988)
Georgia (1986 & 1996)
Hawaii (1978)
Idaho (2007)
Illinois (1969)
Indiana (1984)
Iowa (2002)
Kansas (2007)
Kentucky (1984)
Louisiana (1812)
Massachusetts (1975)
Mississippi (1987)
Missouri (1998)
Montana (1995)
Nebraska (1920)
New Hampshire (1995)
North Carolina (1987)
North Dakota (1987)
South Carolina (1987)
South Dakota (1995)
Tennessee (1984)
Utah (2000)
Virginia (1981 & 1996)
Wyoming (1996)

]]> By: El Jello http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-21060 El Jello Tue, 11 Aug 2009 20:16:11 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-21060 TO ALL YOU SO-CALLED ENGLISH ONLY PEOPLE, I HAVE YET TO READ ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT HAS MADE ENGLISH THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY! I WAS BORN IN THIS COUNTRY, AND MY FIRST LANGUAGE IS SPANISH, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE OVER 8 GENERATIONS AND WE ALL HAVE SPANISH AS A FIRST LANGUAGE AND 4 GENERATIONS WERE BORN UNDER THE U.S. FLAG. NEW MEXICO BECAME A STATE IN 1912. AND SPANISH, TEWA AND OTHER NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGES ARE STILL CONSIDERED FIRST LANGUAGES AND ENGLISH A SECOND LANGUAGE. THIS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT TRIES TO UTILIZE A ONE LANGUAGE STATE. I AM BILINGUAL AND I WOULD RATHER SPEAK IN MY NATIVE LANGUEGE THEN SPEAK IN ENGLISH!!! QUE VIVE LA IDIOMA DEL ESPANOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TO ALL YOU SO-CALLED ENGLISH ONLY PEOPLE, I HAVE YET TO READ ANY LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT HAS MADE ENGLISH THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY! I WAS BORN IN THIS COUNTRY, AND MY FIRST LANGUAGE IS SPANISH, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE OVER 8 GENERATIONS AND WE ALL HAVE SPANISH AS A FIRST LANGUAGE AND 4 GENERATIONS WERE BORN UNDER THE U.S. FLAG. NEW MEXICO BECAME A STATE IN 1912. AND SPANISH, TEWA AND OTHER NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGES ARE STILL CONSIDERED FIRST LANGUAGES AND ENGLISH A SECOND LANGUAGE. THIS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT TRIES TO UTILIZE A ONE LANGUAGE STATE. I AM BILINGUAL AND I WOULD RATHER SPEAK IN MY NATIVE LANGUEGE THEN SPEAK IN ENGLISH!!! QUE VIVE LA IDIOMA DEL ESPANOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: Mark http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-16552 Mark Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:51:32 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-16552 People are becoming increasingly less self sufficient and that facts makes the current administration overjoyed because they need to feel like THEY are in charge of YOUR life - not you! Apparently we must do such a ...tty job of it. Look at everything being proposed by king Obama - it is ALL about larger Government taking over your life as if they know what is best - from fatty foods to education to the car you drive and the fuel you use to heat your home.....oddly very little about defending our country which is the government's job. Don't ever think about oversight because it is being refused - contrary opinions like debunking Global Warming....well, we can't have such (free) speech can we. What next - a Legal Document CZAR - answerable to no one but King Obama? We are no longer governed - but ruled. Anyone who visits New York State will realize that. Our country has been attacked from within but many can't (or won't) admit it because their committment has escalated too far - they still hold their bumpers together with multiple Obama stickers - like get out of jail monopoly cards.....a fitting tribute to our monopoly money! People are becoming increasingly less self sufficient and that facts makes the current administration overjoyed because they need to feel like THEY are in charge of YOUR life – not you! Apparently we must do such a …tty job of it.

Look at everything being proposed by king Obama – it is ALL about larger Government taking over your life as if they know what is best – from fatty foods to education to the car you drive and the fuel you use to heat your home…..oddly very little about defending our country which is the government’s job. Don’t ever think about oversight because it is being refused – contrary opinions like debunking Global Warming….well, we can’t have such (free) speech can we.

What next – a Legal Document CZAR – answerable to no one but King Obama? We are no longer governed – but ruled. Anyone who visits New York State will realize that.

Our country has been attacked from within but many can’t (or won’t) admit it because their committment has escalated too far – they still hold their bumpers together with multiple Obama stickers – like get out of jail monopoly cards…..a fitting tribute to our monopoly money!

]]> By: Karen http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-15841 Karen Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:00:41 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-15841 I'm writing again -Dear Fres - yes please get of your soap box - I deal with them also and you know look at their government they are trying to make them our responsibility - I came from a country that is no different today literally than it was 50 years ago - and they are people just as ignorant - we have choices to make from the time we are born plain and simple, all my family became citizens of America and I don't want to go back not even to visit - minorities have a lot of avenues for financial aide and help in forms that an AngloAmerican does not have and actually AngloAmericans are becoming the minority for which they have no voice. You need to go visit other countries maybe join a good organization like PeaceCorps and take that time to really look into the problems - the right way to help is to help them help them selves and not just give it to them. I am now getting off my soapbox - sorry D. Franklin - but I couldn't help it. I’m writing again -Dear Fres – yes please get of your soap box – I deal with them also and you know look at their government they are trying to make them our responsibility – I came from a country that is no different today literally than it was 50 years ago – and they are people just as ignorant – we have choices to make from the time we are born plain and simple, all my family became citizens of America and I don’t want to go back not even to visit – minorities have a lot of avenues for financial aide and help in forms that an AngloAmerican does not have and actually AngloAmericans are becoming the minority for which they have no voice. You need to go visit other countries maybe join a good organization like PeaceCorps and take that time to really look into the problems – the right way to help is to help them help them selves and not just give it to them. I am now getting off my soapbox – sorry D. Franklin – but I couldn’t help it.

]]> By: Joyce http://www.hrmorning.com/lost-in-translation/comment-page-1/#comment-15669 Joyce Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:03:14 +0000 http://www.hrmorning.com/?p=2365#comment-15669 I agree with most posts here. Move to the US, work at a company earning a decent wage to improve your life in the US, send your children to school in the US, LEARN ENGLISH. I agree with most posts here. Move to the US, work at a company earning a decent wage to improve your life in the US, send your children to school in the US, LEARN ENGLISH.

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